0.6 min readBy Published On: February 27th, 2018Categories: News41 Comments on ZBA rejects a multi-unit proposal in City Point

Could it be that the City of Boston is listening to residents and their opposition to dense development in their neighborhood?  Well, according to Universal Hub, the City of Boston Zoning Board of Appeals rejected a developer Ryan Hunt’s proposal to replace a 2-family at 37 Farragut Road with a four-story, eight-unit building.  In addition to residents in opposition, the offices of Mayor Walsh and City Councilors Ed Flynn and City Councilors at-Large Michael Flaherty and Annissa Essaibi-George joined residents against it.

Back in January, the ZBA rejected a proposal of new 44 foot, three-story addition to the back of 712 East Sixth Street.  In May, the ZBA also rejected tearing down a single family at 202 M St.and replace is with condos.

Hmmm….we shall see.



  1. Not So New To The Hood February 27, 2018 at 2:50 pm - Reply

    I wonder how the current owner feels now that their sale fell through due to the contingency clause. Neighbors in City Point are so nice until you actually want to do something with the land and property you own.

  2. Oldtimesouthie February 27, 2018 at 4:10 pm - Reply

    Just because you own the property that doesn’t give you the “right” to do whatever you want with a property..glad to see the locals are preserving their property..

  3. Oldtimesouthie February 27, 2018 at 4:19 pm - Reply

    I was at the ZBA hearing..their was a abutters meeting prior to the hearing today. The developer ingonered the long time residents opposition and in his ARROGANCE thought he would get ZBA approval.the greedy developer and his henchman Mr Morancy..got SLAYED..8 units on a lot that currently has a TWO FAMILY..pure unintelteratrd GREED!

    • Not So New To The Hood February 27, 2018 at 4:38 pm - Reply

      A two family in 4000 SF is greed if you ask me. Remember, we have a housing crisis on our hands? Maybe you can’t, that’s probably an age thing.

      • Not So New To The Hood February 27, 2018 at 4:40 pm - Reply

        I’m sure the neighbors would still say no if the plan was to gut the building, leave unchanged externally, and turn into a 4 unit.

        • Not So New To The Hood February 27, 2018 at 4:43 pm - Reply

          “Too many cars!!!”

          “Would Create Traffic”

          “would exacerbate parking”

          “insert age old objection here”

      • Eddie D March 6, 2018 at 9:56 am - Reply

        Housing crisis refers to the cost. there are plenty of condo’s but most can’t afford them. that’s the crisis.

  4. Oldtimesouthie February 27, 2018 at 5:11 pm - Reply

    Housing crisis ? ..no greed crisis!!..if you don’t agree with the long time residents and city counclers FLYNN,FLAHERTY, and two other city councilors who opposed this project along with the members of the appeals board..MOVE..

  5. Oldtimesouthie February 27, 2018 at 5:26 pm - Reply

    Not so New, WOW what narrowmindness..sounds like your a ageaphob..you are showing your ignorance and perdijuce against anyone a bit older than you..what a shame..!..you AGE BIGOT you.

    • Oldtimesouthie February 28, 2018 at 9:20 am - Reply

      Let’s all just be Oldtimesouthie? I like it.

  6. Webster February 27, 2018 at 5:43 pm - Reply

    What does “unintelteratrd” mean? Is that old time southie speak? I would like to add it to my book if you don’t mind.

  7. Oldtimesouthie February 27, 2018 at 6:59 pm - Reply

    Webster, its Old time SOUTHIE speak. meaning; as greedy as on can get/SUPER GREEDY..its a SOUTHIE slang..does that answer your question..

    • Guppy (geezer urban post-professional) February 28, 2018 at 7:11 am - Reply

      Absolutely Oldtimer. Unintelteratrd. I hear it on the streets all the time. “You know, Pat. If I didn’t know you better I’d say you were being a bit unintelteratrd when you boosted that lady’s Shitzu along with her purse.”

  8. Frank Bova February 27, 2018 at 10:24 pm - Reply

    Its very interesting to notice the only time these tear down and rebuild projects get denied seems to be above that imaginary EXISTING line we have in this town or when A particular City Councilor sticks his nose in because it might be a little to close to his house. While us poor lower enders have endured this bombardment for the last fifteen years and have been told to suck it up for the team. Its almost over. YA RIGHT

    • Oldtimesouthie February 28, 2018 at 9:24 am - Reply

      See…there’s at least one logical human in this comment section. Tell ’em Frank. Boston has a SPACE problem. This developer attempted to alleviate that issue, but greedy neighbors will have non of it.

  9. Oldtimesouthie February 28, 2018 at 8:42 am - Reply

    Frank: I agree with you. However, everyone must band together and join in unison. Go to abutters meeting, know the zoning regulations, (ARTICLE 68,THE IPOD ect.) If the abutters/neighbors oppose a project.GET PETITIONS,CONTACT CITY COUNCILORS, and most importantly go IN MASS to the bi-weekly, (held on Tuesdays at city hall) zoning appeal board meeting and EXPRESS your opposition or support..in my opinion the reason these greedy developers get away with their shenanigans is complancy on the part of the neighbors.i have personally STOPPED 2 projects in my neighborhood by using the above mentioned taticts.

  10. Webster February 28, 2018 at 9:53 am - Reply

    Oldtimer… what are the two projects you’ve stopped? Where did you learn these thwart tactics? Very impressive.

  11. Oldtimesouthie February 28, 2018 at 10:22 am - Reply

    I learned by self teaching and reading zoning laws..i live in the heights section of southie..the key people to know are John Allison, mayors office,mark mcgonagle,bpda( the old BRA)..city council FLYNN,FLAHERTY,you can read article 68 online.ger to know the ZONING dimensions,e.g. set backs( rear yard 20 feet,side yard 3 feet,height 40 feet ect..also before you you go to abutters meeting get a copy of the ZONING CODE REFUSAL LETTER from John allison.this will.help you understand d what is going on.beleive me i have STOPPED 2 projects in the heights area..the GREEDY investors and their henchman/ lawyers, artichetch DON’T LIKE ME..im a little to smart for them!

    • Guppy (geezer urban post-professional) February 28, 2018 at 3:34 pm - Reply

      Uh…I think you mean a little TOO smart. Remember: When you need MORE just add another O.

  12. Oldtimesouthie February 28, 2018 at 10:34 am - Reply

    One last point.You CANNOT go to abutters meeting and just ” bitch”..THAT DOESN’T WORK! These greedy developers expect that and will let you RANT AND RAVE ..then go to the ZBA HEARING and NOBODY SHOWS UP or if they do they have no ” ammunition” or political backing and for the most part get approval..GET PROACTIVE, JUST BITCHING DOESN’T WORK!

  13. Webster February 28, 2018 at 11:48 am - Reply

    Great insight. I’ll check out that Art 68 you mention. I’ve heard rumors that this project will end up being approved though, because of some laws that the city is ignoring that forces them to approve in the end. Have you read up on that? Too bad sounds like yesterdays decision won’t hold up.

  14. Oldtimesouthie February 28, 2018 at 12:00 pm - Reply

    Honestly, the decision was POLITICAL, I know the rules, the developer is in his rights because the proposed project has NO zoning code violations. Having said that he is proposing 8 units ( greed) and is ignoring the LONG TIME residents ( who by the way showed up in Maidstone oppose the project. His next move is to appeal.the ZBA ‘s decision which will be costly because of legal fees.ALso if he wins he BETTER NOT make one false move during construction or he will get punished by ISD.!

    • Oldtimesouthie February 28, 2018 at 1:43 pm - Reply

      What makes 8 units greed? It promotes higher density, more supply, therefore in theory lowering rents and sale prices. It’s closer to charity than greed.

  15. Eddie Mac February 28, 2018 at 3:14 pm - Reply

    Fix the Zoning rules in South Boston. Pols and Bpda stood on stage at the Tynan and sold us the 2017 Article 68 flawed zoning , setting in motion this mess. Buying up singles on large lots I.E. 202 Mst. Farragut Rd. East Sixth next to twomey ct. I would call the resetting of zoning an abject failure. Neighborhood folks who have legitimate concerns are scoffed at and called nimby’s . Comment sections everyone throws the ” housing crisis” in these folks face. Who would rezone South Boston in this current real estate market and miss the mark like this ? Pols, roll up your sleeves and fix the broken zoning. Once a family rich community now a revolving door of transients, this is the legacy of elected officials. But remember all who feel the same as me….NO ONE feels bad for Southie….

    • Oldtimesouthie March 1, 2018 at 1:43 pm - Reply

      It’s a transient community because Boston Public Schools are a disgrace. Not even the upper middle class folk can afford the city’s housing costs AND private school tuition.

  16. Oldtimesouthie February 28, 2018 at 4:03 pm - Reply

    Guppy : uh, your checking my spelling? sorry for the typo. Too as in too much, to as going to church, two as 1+1=2. Do you really want to get into a Intellectual battle with me? I don’t you really want to match my intellect with yours do you…im a proud alumnus of SOUTH BOSTON HIGH from the 60’s and from what I see much smarter than most of these college graduates of this generation!

    • CertifiedYuppie March 1, 2018 at 10:06 pm - Reply

      Oldtimesouthie, did you mean, “you’re”? Oh I guess that SBH education from the ’60s is so highly rated that you’re more educated than anyone with a college degree from 2000+. My guess is that you’re, notice “you’re”, probably living on government subsidies and unemployed because you’re bitter and uneducated. Furthermore, you probably live on West 4th by the St. Peter Academy, where across the street, the old, sour, Southie retirees live on Social Security and prayers. Cheers!

  17. Oldtimesouthie February 28, 2018 at 4:18 pm - Reply

    Oldtimesouthie, NEVER WROTE THAT RESPONSE that came In at 1:43..how did that happen??

    • Guppy (geezer urban post-professional) March 1, 2018 at 6:38 am - Reply

      Then how do we know YOU’RE the REAL oldtimesouthie? OK, quick. How do you spell “too”?

      • Guppy (geezer urban post-professional) March 1, 2018 at 6:45 am - Reply

        I’M KIDDING!

    • Oldtimesouthie March 1, 2018 at 9:24 am - Reply

      I really need to get off my computer and back into my rocker.

  18. Oldtimesouthie February 28, 2018 at 4:25 pm - Reply

    ARTICLE 68..complet FAILURE..the zoning requirements, height, set backs,far, usable open space, are designed for developers!! However, if you want ARTICLE 68 their should be NO VARIANCES GRANTED by the ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS PRRIOD!

  19. Oldtimesouthie March 1, 2018 at 9:55 am - Reply

    We have a oldtimesouthie IMPERSONATOR..writing under my heading..what a coward or better still a real fool..he sent a message under my name Today at 9;24 AM this is the second time this FOOL has done it. WHAT A LOSER!

    • Guppy (geezer urban post-professional) March 1, 2018 at 1:11 pm - Reply

      Don’t worry. Everybody knows you’re the REAL Oldtimesouthie. GUESS HOW WE KNOW.

    • Oldtimesouthie March 1, 2018 at 1:44 pm - Reply

      WHO is THE loser NOW?

      • Guppy (geezer urban post-professional) March 1, 2018 at 2:45 pm - Reply

        I think this is impostor Oldtimesouthy camouflaging behind the caps key. Nice try. I was born at night but I didn’t just fall off a turnip…wait….

  20. schwein March 1, 2018 at 1:12 pm - Reply

    i quite liked the rendering of the building.. assuming the developer actually builds what he proposed, this being said, perhaps if he had suggested 4 town homes or 4 floor through units it would have been perceived better? Regardless the existing building is nothing special in my opinion the developer should not be held to keep it as a single family…

  21. SBHS class of 1969 March 2, 2018 at 1:11 pm - Reply

    This greedy ” developer” could care less about south boston, he sees a opportunity to make a fortune at the expense of the neighborhood people. He’s nothing more than a “interloper ” drive by greed!

    • Guppy (geezer urban post-professional) March 2, 2018 at 2:05 pm - Reply

      I think you meant “carpetbagger”. Although “interloper” does have a general definition as someone who is an unwanted trespasser, a “carpetbagger” is more toward your description of someone who is an outside opportunist that profits from reconstruction. However I would like to point out that most of the reconstruction going on in my neighborhood is being done by native South Bostonians so neither term applies may apply here. Let’s face it, Southie was sold out by Southie itself. No point in shaking your fist at the buyers.

  22. SBHS class of 1969 March 2, 2018 at 5:38 pm - Reply

    Guppy; a carpetbagger is one who seeks political office in a area he does not come from. The term carpetbagger originated after the civil war. A interloper is one who is trying to a part of a community and is not welcome. I don’t think the developer has any political aspersions!

    • Guppy (geezer urban post-professional) March 3, 2018 at 10:45 am - Reply

      The term as it applies to politics is modern. You wrote “he sees a opportunity to make a fortune at the expense of the neighborhood people.” That’s EXACTLY what the Carpetbaggers did in the South. This is from the first paragraph of Wikipedia:

      In the history of the United States, a carpetbagger was any person from the Northern United States who came to the Southern states after the American Civil War and was perceived to be exploiting the local populace for their own purposes. This broadly included both individuals who sought to promote Republican politics (which favored, among other things, racial integration), and individuals who saw unscrupulous business opportunities because of the chaotic state of the local economies following the war. In practice, the term carpetbagger was often applied to any Northerner who was present in the South during the Reconstruction Era (1863–1877).

      The business opportunities were BY FAR the main motivation. Taking public office was a consequence of owning all the land. You can’t win elections until all of the voters are already in place. In fact the parallels go beyond that:

      They were predominately successful, well educated and white although favoring integration.
      They subdivided the plantations into smaller lots for (re)construction and thereby brought in more residence and businesses.
      Since many of them were onetime Union soldiers who knew these areas firsthand they were….ready for it?…YOUNG.

      I’m not casting aspersions. I just find all this fascinating.

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