2.9 min readBy Published On: December 29th, 2014Categories: Features12 Comments

This piece was originally published in August of 2014.  Lots of buzz on twitter debating where Seaports ends and South Boston begins.  Is the Seaport District and Fort Point parts of South Boston or not.  Oh boy, where to we begin! 

Here’s the Original Post:

We’ve got a bee in our bonnet and it’s about the name game of the South Boston neighborhoods.  It all began last week when Boston Magazine came out with their Best of Boston Awards issue and felt the need to separate two South Boston neighborhoods into separate categories: South Boston and Fort Point/Waterfront.  Why did they feel the need to do that?  Isn’t it all South Boston?  There was no division for Dorchester or Jamaica Plain or any other neighborhood in Boston – just Southie.  So why is that?

Last week we were involved in a conversation with a resident of the Fort Point neighborhood of South Boston along with a mixed crowd of people from all over New England. We were told by this Fort Pointer (not to be confused with the informative news source) that Fort Point was “not part of South Boston.”

One New England resident – from Vermont to be exact – was explaining that he was recently in the South Boston Waterfront and how beautiful it is.  We proudly boasted that we were from South Boston.  The Fort Pointer began to brag about how her neighborhood has so many new restaurants and a new park on A Street and how great her neighborhood is.  Vermont guy asked “where to you live?”  I live in Fort Point – a neighborhood in Boston, she said.

“You mean South Boston,” we interrupted “Fort Point is not really a part of South Boston,” she said.  Really?  “Well, it has a different zip code,” she added.  “Well, it always has.  Dorchester has numerous zip codes (four to be exact)  but Savin Hill is still Dorchester,” we replied.  She made a dismissive face.   “It’s a different neighborhood completely,” she added.

We’ve also heard rumors that certain Fort Point residents are rallying for their own neighborhood stickers that read “Fort Point” not “South Boston.”  Honestly, is being associated with South Boston that bad that you feel the need to disassociated yourself from it.  Let us not bring up the “Broadway Village” debacle from earlier this year where some realtors wanted to rename the West Broadway/Broadway Station area “Broadway Village” to class it up a bit.

The Innovation District still confuses us.   That gem was thought up by Menino a few years ago and we still aren’t really sure where it begins and ends other than it’s all in South Boston including the South Boston Waterfront and Fort Point.

Maybe because we are lifelong residents running this website that we take it personally when someone doesn’t want to be associated with our neighborhood because there is an undertone of snobbery when looking down upon South Boston proper.  No matter what neighborhood from South Boston you are from be it Andrew Square, City Point, Lower End/West End/Cityside/BroadwayVillage, St. Vinny’s, Thomas Park/Dorchester Heights, the Waterfront/ Fort Point/Innovation District, it’s all South Boston – embrace it – and be proud.  We know we are. It’s the best neighborhood in the world!

FYI: Interesting fact.  On the BRA’s website – the neighborhoods of Boston are listed. Fort Point is not listed – it’s is included as part of the SOUTH BOSTON Waterfront.  So put that in your pipe and smoke it!

12 Comments

  1. Anonymous August 7, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    Well done, I could not agree more. Tell them you would like to mail them a check for their generous coaching on the neighborhood boundaries/names and ask them where you should send it?

    Good luck getting it with ‘Fort Point’ MA written on the envelope.

  2. b.collins August 7, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    They claim to be from South Boston when they are looking for grants,  funding, and other donations that are giving out to local 501(3)c non profits in the South Boston 

  3. sc August 7, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    That is SO obnoxious you ‘fort pointers’.  I get it, you live in Fort Point, I live in City Point, but it’s ALL south boston! Come on.

  4. Molly August 8, 2014 at 10:34 am

    Back in the day if someone in Dorchester or Southie asked you where you lived, the answer would be either the corner where you hung – I and E 5th or Gatie

  5. Fort Point Resident August 8, 2014 at 9:59 pm

    It seems like the Southie part of Boston along Broadway and heading east HATES change, modernization and urbanization. Fort Point Historic District and the Seaport area are being developed since Boston Wharf Co sold the land. I never understood why the Silver Line that ran down Broadway got discontinued. Did those residents not want better public transit? South Boston in many parts seems to be digging their heels in the ground to remain suburban, with suburban rents, parking and limited transit. A neighborhood this close to downtown should have RAPID transit, innovative businesses and a diverse community. It seems like blue collar folks cannot be friends with new people moving in.

  6. Amy August 10, 2014 at 2:18 pm
    Every week on here there is an axe to grind. You locals get pissy if someone not from here says they live in South Boston. Then when someone doesn’t want to be a part of you rip them for that. Quite frankly I find the whole thing juvenile and irrelevant. I mean grow the F*^# up already. Who cares. And honestly it’s all Boston anyways.
    This whole southie territorial pissing match is ridiculous there are more important things in the world to worry about !
  7. Ironic August 11, 2014 at 1:02 pm

    Citypointers used to look down at Andrew Square folks and so on and now, Fort Point is looking down on all of Southie, including Citypoint. It’s actually all pretty funny to me. It doesn’t matter to me. ::shrug::

    ~Born and raised in The Square

  8. Anonymous August 12, 2014 at 5:08 pm
    Call it for what it is: the Lower End. And you’re not from Southie unless you know where that is.
  9. Anonymous August 17, 2014 at 8:33 pm
    Nobody gets pissy when the Newbies say they live in Southie. It”s when you incorrectly state that you are “from” Southie.
    You will never be from Southie. You’re all a bunch of transients who are passing through. Until you get married here, have kids, raise them here and get buried from one of the local funeral homes will you be considered from Southie. So, you grow the fuck up.
  10. Rick Winterson December 30, 2014 at 6:12 pm

       The plain fact is that Fort Point isn't really Fort Point.  The area we now call Fort Point is across the Channel from where the true Fort Point was originally situated.  It was a cannon emplacement to protect Boston Harbor from pirates; it has long since been built over by the Financial District structures and roads – just as Griffin Wharf, the site of the Boston Tea Party – has been buried under buildings.

       I suppose we could re-christen that area "Across-the Channel-from-the-Real-Fort-Point".  That wouldn't be any sillier than "innovation District" or "Broadway Village" (the Silly Prize Winner).  This contrversy is all kind of ho-hum, just as all controversies based on historical inaccuracies are.

  11. Anonymous December 30, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    Fort Point is South Boston. We have the same elected representatives. You receive grants for non profits that distrubted for South Boston. Let's take example from the Mayor who is for One Boston that we should be One South Boston. Powers in numbers………

  12. Anonymous January 1, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    At least us blue collar residents know how to parallel park.

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